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RNA structures (DSSR) / Re: plotting the helical axis along curved helices
« Last post by xiangjun on October 25, 2024, 08:46:14 pm »
Hi Di,

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Do you have any idea of how to easily find the axis of each 2-bp segment of a helix?

The info is within DSSR, but not exposed. I'm considering to add this feature in DSSR JSON output for easy parsing. For WC-like pairs, things are not that complicated. However, with there are subtitles with non-Watson-Crick pairs, e.g., Hoogsteen and reverse Hoogsteen base pairs.

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Also, I think an easier solution for A-form helix is to do a shift of the origin in the plane of the reference frame so that the shifted origin is where the axis passes through the plane.

See "Worked examples on base-pair parameters" in the DSSR Pro User Manual. especially Session "6 Local helical parameters". The vectors o1_h and o2_h are what you need. They are not simple shifts of the origin in the reference frame.

This thread actually prompt me to refine the detailed algorithmic descritpion and get the content published. They are the real meat of 3DNA!

Best regards,

Xiang-Jun
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RNA structures (DSSR) / Re: plotting the helical axis along curved helices
« Last post by Di_Liu on October 25, 2024, 07:42:23 pm »
Thanks, Xiang-Jun!

Do you have any idea of how to easily find the axis of each 2-bp segment of a helix?

Also, I think an easier solution for A-form helix is to do a shift of the origin in the plane of the reference frame so that the shifted origin is where the axis passes through the plane.

Di
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RNA structures (DSSR) / Re: plotting the helical axis along curved helices
« Last post by xiangjun on October 24, 2024, 10:53:08 pm »
Hi Di,

Thanks for posting on the Forum. Indeed the origins of base-pairs are centered within a pair, as defined in the standard base reference frame. For B-form DNA where the helical axis passes through and is perpendicular to base pairs, the line connecting bp origins appears as expected. For A-form DNA or RNA (which is in A-form), the helical axis passes through the central hole where the bps (and their origins) spiral around. See "Figure 4. Influence of non‐zero Slide and Roll at sequential dimer steps on overall DNA helical conformation" of the 2003 3DNA paper in NAR.

DSSR does output a linear helical axis when a helical segment is not too strongly curved. See the 2015 DSSR paper "Figure 2 -- analysis of the yeast phenylalanine tRNA (1ehz)" for an example. You could also run the following commands:

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x3dna-dssr -i=1ehz.pdb --helical-axis
pymol 1ehz.pdb dssr-helicalAxes.pdb
# within PyMOL: as lines; png 1ehz-helices.png

You will see an image as attached below.

However, DSSR currently does not fit a smooth curvilinear helical axis around an arbitrary shape, e.g., a DNA circle. In principle, DSSR can fit a mini-helical axis for each base-pair step (i.e., a 2-bp segment) and then perform a b-spline interpolation. I'm open to suggestions and welcome collaborations to pursue this topic further.

Best regards,

Xiang-Jun
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RNA structures (DSSR) / plotting the helical axis along curved helices
« Last post by Di_Liu on October 24, 2024, 07:45:43 pm »
Hi Xiang-Jun,

I tried to extract the coordinates of the origin points of the base-pair reference frame from the json file. It appears working for DNA structures; but for RNA, the points form a spiral around the helical axis (see attached image), as we would expect due to the differences of how the axis passes through the base-pairs in B- and A-form helices.

Thanks,

Di
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Site announcements / X3DNA-DSSR is funded and DSSR Basic is free for academic users
« Last post by xiangjun on September 25, 2024, 10:31:18 am »
Dear 3DNA/DSSR users,

It gives me great pleasure to announce that the 3DNA/DSSR project is now funded by the NIH R24GM153869 grant, "X3DNA-DSSR: a resource for structural bioinformatics of nucleic acids". I am deeply grateful for the opportunity to continue working on a project that has basically defined who I am. It was a tough time during the funding gap over the past few years. Nevertheless, I have experienced and learned a lot, and witnessed miracles enabled by enthusiastic users.

Since late 2020 when I lost my R01 grant, DSSR has been licensed by the Columbia Technology Ventures (CTV). I appreciate the numerous users (including big pharma) who purchased a DSSR Pro License or a DSSR Basic paid License. Thanks to the NIH R24GM153869 grant, we are pleased to provide DSSR Basic free of charge to the academic community. Academic Users may submit a license request for DSSR Basic or DSSR Pro by clicking "Express Licensing" on the CTV landing page. Commercial users may inquire about pricing and licensing terms by emailing techtransfer@columbia.edu, copying xiangjun@x3dna.org.

The current version of DSSR is v2.4.5-2024sep24 which contains miscellaneous bug fixes (e.g., chain id with > 4 chars) and minor improvements. This release synchronizes with the new R24 funding, which will bring the project to the next stage. All existing users are encouraged to upgrade their installation.

Lots of exciting things will happen for the project. The first important thing is to make DSSR freely accessible to the academic community. I'm now starting to monitor the Forum closely and answer users questions promptly.

I am committed to making DSSR a brand that stands for quality and value. By virtue of its unmatched functionality, usability, and support, DSSR saves users a substantial amount of time and effort when compared to other options. My track record throughout the years has unambiguously demonstrated my dedication to this solid software product.

Xiang-Jun


DSSR Basic contains all features described in the three DSSR-related papers, and include the originally separate SNAP program (still unpublished) for analyzing DNA/RNA-protein complexes. The Pro version integrates the classic 3DNA functionality, plus advanced modeling routines, with email/Zoom/phone support.
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Thank you, Xiang-Jun.
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RNA structures (DSSR) / Re: A pair is absent in dot-bracket notation ?
« Last post by xiangjun on September 05, 2024, 11:10:22 pm »
Pay attention to the following section:

# x3dna-dssr -i=8SH5.pdb

  stem#3[#2, #3]* bps=2 parallel
      strand-1 5'-GG-3'
       bp-type    ||
      strand-2 5'-CC-3'
      helix-form  .
   1 R.G19          R.C49          G-C WC           19-XIX    cWW  cW-W
   2 R.G20          R.C50          G-C WC           19-XIX    cWW  cW-W


These two WC pairs form a parallel mini-duplex. Both pairs (not just G19-C49 but also G20-C50) are excluded from the DBN notation.

Best regards,

Xiang-Jun
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Hi,

DSSR is based on 3D structures of DNA/RNA, deriving features of base-pairing and stacking interactions. It also takes abasic sites into consideration in later releases, requiring only P or at least 5 out of the 6 main-chain backbone atoms (P, O5', C5', C4', C3', and O3'). In PDB entry 4AL5, nucleotide C4 has only one backbone atom (O3'), and C21 has 4 backbone atoms (P, O1P, O2P, and O5') as shown below.
ATOM   2826 O "O3'"  . C   B 2 3   ? 14.682 -18.630 19.841  1.00 152.11 ? 4    C   B "O3'"  1
......
ATOM   3343 P P      . C   B 2 20  ? 2.515  -3.243  14.608  1.00 43.27  ? 21   C   B P      1
ATOM   3344 O OP1    . C   B 2 20  ? 1.257  -3.732  14.022  1.00 60.70  ? 21   C   B OP1    1
ATOM   3345 O OP2    . C   B 2 20  ? 2.599  -1.863  15.133  1.00 37.31  ? 21   C   B OP2    1
ATOM   3346 O "O5'"  . C   B 2 20  ? 2.975  -4.175  15.812  1.00 40.82  ? 21   C   B "O5'"  1

So in previous DSSR versions, both nucleotides are ignored.

Following your question, I've revised DSSR to v2.4.4-2024sep06 which can recognize these two nucleotides. See below:

# x3dna-dssr -i=4AL5.cif
Secondary structures in dot-bracket notation (dbn) as a whole and per chain
>4AL5 nts=18 [whole]
CACUGCCGUAUAGGCAGC
..(((((.....))))).
-.AAAA..A...AAAA--

****************************************************************************
Summary of structural features of 18 nucleotides
  Note: the first five columns are: (1) serial number, (2) one-letter
    shorthand name, (3) dbn, (4) id string, (5) rmsd (~zero) of base
    ring atoms fitted against those in a standard base reference
    frame. The sixth (last) column contains a comma-separated list of
    features whose meanings are mostly self-explanatory, except for:
      turn: angle C1'(i-1)--C1'(i)--C1'(i+1) < 90 degrees
      break: no backbone linkage between O3'(i-1) and P(i)
   1  C . B.C4      ---    non-stack,ss-non-loop
   2  A . B.A5      0.013  anti,~C2'-endo,non-pair-contact,ss-non-loop,splayed-apart
   3  C ( B.C6      0.007  anti,~C3'-endo,BI,canonical,non-pair-contact,helix-end,stem-end,phosphate,splayed-apart
   4  U ( B.U7      0.009  anti,~C3'-endo,BI,canonical,non-pair-contact,helix,stem,phosphate
   5  G ( B.G8      0.015  anti,~C3'-endo,BI,canonical,non-pair-contact,helix,stem,phosphate
   6  C ( B.C9      0.011  anti,~C3'-endo,BI,canonical,non-pair-contact,helix,stem,phosphate
   7  C ( B.C10     0.011  anti,~C3'-endo,BI,canonical,non-pair-contact,helix,stem-end,hairpin-loop,phosphate
   8  G . B.G11     0.043  u-turn,anti,~C3'-endo,BI,non-canonical,non-pair-contact,helix-end,hairpin-loop,cap-acceptor,phosphate
   9  U . B.U12     0.019  turn,u-turn,anti,~C3'-endo,non-pair-contact,hairpin-loop
  10  A . B.A13     0.022  u-turn,anti,~C3'-endo,non-pair-contact,hairpin-loop,cap-donor,phosphate
  11  U . B.U14     0.006  turn,u-turn,anti,~C2'-endo,non-pair-contact,hairpin-loop,phosphate,splayed-apart
  12  A . B.A15     0.007  anti,~C3'-endo,BI,non-canonical,non-pair-contact,helix-end,hairpin-loop,splayed-apart
  13  G ) B.G16     0.017  anti,~C3'-endo,BI,canonical,non-pair-contact,helix,stem-end,hairpin-loop
  14  G ) B.G17     0.011  anti,~C3'-endo,BI,canonical,non-pair-contact,helix,stem
  15  C ) B.C18     0.011  anti,~C3'-endo,BI,canonical,non-pair-contact,helix,stem
  16  A ) B.A19     0.014  anti,~C3'-endo,BI,canonical,non-pair-contact,helix,stem
  17  G ) B.G20     0.018  anti,~C2'-endo,BI,canonical,non-pair-contact,helix-end,stem-end
  18  C . B.C21     ---    non-stack,ss-non-loop,phosphate


Best regards,

Xiang-Jun
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RNA structures (DSSR) / Re: A pair is absent in dot-bracket notation ?
« Last post by sk on September 04, 2024, 04:26:40 pm »
Another question in the same topic.

If I run "x3dna-dssr  --more -i=pdb-data/8SH5.cif" it says

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...
  17 R.G19          R.C49          G-C WC          19-XIX    cWW  cW-W
       [-155.1(anti) ~C3'-endo lambda=50.2] [-106.9(anti) ~C2'-endo lambda=53.7]
       d(C1'-C1')=10.82 d(N1-N9)=9.00 d(C6-C8)=9.90 tor(C1'-N1-N9-C1')=-11.0
       H-bonds[3]: "O6(carbonyl)-N4(amino)[2.93],N1(imino)-N3[2.91],N2(amino)-O2(carbonyl)[2.81]"
       interBase-angle=8  Simple-bpParams: Shear=-0.21 Stretch=-0.13 Buckle=-2.1 Propeller=-7.6
...

But in dbn, there is no parentheses on these positions (19 and 49). Why? Maybe because of a non-canonical pair have G19-C51 or G19-G22  ?
Do you discard a canonical pair (x,y) if there is a non-canonical one (x,z) with z < y ?
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Hello,

I'm trying to understand why dssr says that 4AL5 has 16 nucleotides.

Cif file contains 20 nucleotides UUCACUGCCGUAUAGGCAGC as _entity_poly.pdbx_seq_one_letter_code,
dssr gives only 16 ACUGCCGUAUAGGCAG.

The sequence is explained as
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loop_
_pdbx_poly_seq_scheme.asym_id
_pdbx_poly_seq_scheme.entity_id
_pdbx_poly_seq_scheme.seq_id
_pdbx_poly_seq_scheme.mon_id
_pdbx_poly_seq_scheme.ndb_seq_num
_pdbx_poly_seq_scheme.pdb_seq_num
_pdbx_poly_seq_scheme.auth_seq_num
_pdbx_poly_seq_scheme.pdb_mon_id
_pdbx_poly_seq_scheme.auth_mon_id
_pdbx_poly_seq_scheme.pdb_strand_id
_pdbx_poly_seq_scheme.pdb_ins_code
_pdbx_poly_seq_scheme.hetero

B 2 1   U   1   2   ?   ?   ?   B . n
B 2 2   U   2   3   ?   ?   ?   B . n
B 2 3   C   3   4   4   C   C   B . n
B 2 4   A   4   5   5   A   A   B . n
B 2 5   C   5   6   6   C   C   B . n
B 2 6   U   6   7   7   U   U   B . n
B 2 7   G   7   8   8   G   G   B . n
B 2 8   C   8   9   9   C   C   B . n
B 2 9   C   9   10  10  C   C   B . n
B 2 10  G   10  11  11  G   G   B . n
B 2 11  U   11  12  12  U   U   B . n
B 2 12  A   12  13  13  A   A   B . n
B 2 13  U   13  14  14  U   U   B . n
B 2 14  A   14  15  15  A   A   B . n
B 2 15  G   15  16  16  G   G   B . n
B 2 16  G   16  17  17  G   G   B . n
B 2 17  C   17  18  18  C   C   B . n
B 2 18  A   18  19  19  A   A   B . n
B 2 19  G   19  20  20  G   G   B . n
B 2 20  C   20  21  21  C   C   B . n

If I understand correctly you removed first to lines because _pdbx_poly_seq_scheme.pdb_mon_id  = ? (consequence of _pdbx_unobs_or_zero_occ_residues ? )

But why you should remove C21 and C4 ?
Looks like it has something to do with _pdbx_unobs_or_zero_occ_atoms.

Could you please clarify the situation ?
Thanks in advance.
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